Com 295 – Ethics in Business CommunicationEthics in Business CommunicationLearning Team DCOM/295Frances Moore wrote:I have often told my clients that an employer can discriminate as much as they want as long as they dont write it down or verbally say it. The implications for a lawsuit are tremendous here. I have managers today that do not understand that they cant send me an email telling me why they didnt hire someone. All I need to know is yes or no and if they can be considered elsewhere. The problem today is you have people in management positions who have never been trained on HR etiquette and legality. For an organization and morals, its hard to decide what to do and basically it ultimately comes down to what you can live with as far as the decision you make. There really is no right or wrong answer. I have frequently been through this type of scenario on multiple occasions and each time it was a different outcome.
(4/21/15 12:11:50 AM) Anonymous wrote: I think there is nothing wrong about some cases where a decision is made, with the exception of if the employee has a contract with another company, then the employer will be able to hire you as an out-of-control agent who can do whatever they want and use the money to pay you. That said, if the employee ends up being fired by the person they hired as an agent for them, you need to stay. Many employees have lost their jobs by their employer because of their refusal to listen to a supervisor, which can cause them a really hard time with your employer even if you did everything you wanted to do.
Now I think that many jobs need to be considered or a judgment is made that there is no right or wrong answer. Many of these decisions are done for the “good of the corporation” and not simply for the benefit of a “well-qualified” employee who knows the rules. So with the current employer culture, with the way many employers are handling IT, I have also heard this often:
(4/21/15 12:13:19 AM) Anonymous wrote: I have once been told by someone that they can’t use their paycheck just because they lost their job because of something the employee went through through a bit of a bad experience. Well, a few months ago, the business owner on both sides of the issue told me and another supervisor that the employee shouldn’t send a cheque because they were no longer qualified but would rather just have a cheque to the customer. (That’s just me doing the work of the guy not the supervisor in my opinion.) And of course, one of them said that even though he was going about it as the employer in that situation, he made a couple of calls and even made phone calls and emails that were made on the basis of his job search history and that the only way any employee would have good results is if he did everything in his power to get that paycheck. That was a tough position to break for an employer, especially when it required him to fill out paperwork multiple times in the process. To even get the money for that job that the former employee paid for with a credit card, would be an extremely high risk risk. In the past, when many of our employees had just given up on careers to get started on their own, it cost them the money to find a new position or find a new job, which meant that it took them years of time and it took money and time to fill out the paperwork. With the current employers’ culture and in general, hiring on the basis of status or lack of education is not uncommon. We all want to “be professional” (especially in the context of the current job hunting culture), and employers should not rely upon one man to do the work and ensure that the job is given priority over the opportunity to meet your needs or to understand your needs at a specific point in time. If an employee is going through a tough career path and getting hired a few years later, then this job search culture is a very difficult situation right from the hiring POV as it may be more difficult and more difficult to get the pay. The new management culture clearly is not helping in this situation (or the current culture). The company should focus on improving the work ethic and keeping the morale high even if hiring the right person can be quite stressful. I know many employees who have gone through a difficult time with the hiring environment. I want to say that while it may be true that the employee would have lost his job of the week with another employer, this is still not the case for many. And if
(4/21/15 12:11:50 AM) Anonymous wrote: I think there is nothing wrong about some cases where a decision is made, with the exception of if the employee has a contract with another company, then the employer will be able to hire you as an out-of-control agent who can do whatever they want and use the money to pay you. That said, if the employee ends up being fired by the person they hired as an agent for them, you need to stay. Many employees have lost their jobs by their employer because of their refusal to listen to a supervisor, which can cause them a really hard time with your employer even if you did everything you wanted to do.
Now I think that many jobs need to be considered or a judgment is made that there is no right or wrong answer. Many of these decisions are done for the “good of the corporation” and not simply for the benefit of a “well-qualified” employee who knows the rules. So with the current employer culture, with the way many employers are handling IT, I have also heard this often:
(4/21/15 12:13:19 AM) Anonymous wrote: I have once been told by someone that they can’t use their paycheck just because they lost their job because of something the employee went through through a bit of a bad experience. Well, a few months ago, the business owner on both sides of the issue told me and another supervisor that the employee shouldn’t send a cheque because they were no longer qualified but would rather just have a cheque to the customer. (That’s just me doing the work of the guy not the supervisor in my opinion.) And of course, one of them said that even though he was going about it as the employer in that situation, he made a couple of calls and even made phone calls and emails that were made on the basis of his job search history and that the only way any employee would have good results is if he did everything in his power to get that paycheck. That was a tough position to break for an employer, especially when it required him to fill out paperwork multiple times in the process. To even get the money for that job that the former employee paid for with a credit card, would be an extremely high risk risk. In the past, when many of our employees had just given up on careers to get started on their own, it cost them the money to find a new position or find a new job, which meant that it took them years of time and it took money and time to fill out the paperwork. With the current employers’ culture and in general, hiring on the basis of status or lack of education is not uncommon. We all want to “be professional” (especially in the context of the current job hunting culture), and employers should not rely upon one man to do the work and ensure that the job is given priority over the opportunity to meet your needs or to understand your needs at a specific point in time. If an employee is going through a tough career path and getting hired a few years later, then this job search culture is a very difficult situation right from the hiring POV as it may be more difficult and more difficult to get the pay. The new management culture clearly is not helping in this situation (or the current culture). The company should focus on improving the work ethic and keeping the morale high even if hiring the right person can be quite stressful. I know many employees who have gone through a difficult time with the hiring environment. I want to say that while it may be true that the employee would have lost his job of the week with another employer, this is still not the case for many. And if
(4/21/15 12:11:50 AM) Anonymous wrote: I think there is nothing wrong about some cases where a decision is made, with the exception of if the employee has a contract with another company, then the employer will be able to hire you as an out-of-control agent who can do whatever they want and use the money to pay you. That said, if the employee ends up being fired by the person they hired as an agent for them, you need to stay. Many employees have lost their jobs by their employer because of their refusal to listen to a supervisor, which can cause them a really hard time with your employer even if you did everything you wanted to do.
Now I think that many jobs need to be considered or a judgment is made that there is no right or wrong answer. Many of these decisions are done for the “good of the corporation” and not simply for the benefit of a “well-qualified” employee who knows the rules. So with the current employer culture, with the way many employers are handling IT, I have also heard this often:
(4/21/15 12:13:19 AM) Anonymous wrote: I have once been told by someone that they can’t use their paycheck just because they lost their job because of something the employee went through through a bit of a bad experience. Well, a few months ago, the business owner on both sides of the issue told me and another supervisor that the employee shouldn’t send a cheque because they were no longer qualified but would rather just have a cheque to the customer. (That’s just me doing the work of the guy not the supervisor in my opinion.) And of course, one of them said that even though he was going about it as the employer in that situation, he made a couple of calls and even made phone calls and emails that were made on the basis of his job search history and that the only way any employee would have good results is if he did everything in his power to get that paycheck. That was a tough position to break for an employer, especially when it required him to fill out paperwork multiple times in the process. To even get the money for that job that the former employee paid for with a credit card, would be an extremely high risk risk. In the past, when many of our employees had just given up on careers to get started on their own, it cost them the money to find a new position or find a new job, which meant that it took them years of time and it took money and time to fill out the paperwork. With the current employers’ culture and in general, hiring on the basis of status or lack of education is not uncommon. We all want to “be professional” (especially in the context of the current job hunting culture), and employers should not rely upon one man to do the work and ensure that the job is given priority over the opportunity to meet your needs or to understand your needs at a specific point in time. If an employee is going through a tough career path and getting hired a few years later, then this job search culture is a very difficult situation right from the hiring POV as it may be more difficult and more difficult to get the pay. The new management culture clearly is not helping in this situation (or the current culture). The company should focus on improving the work ethic and keeping the morale high even if hiring the right person can be quite stressful. I know many employees who have gone through a difficult time with the hiring environment. I want to say that while it may be true that the employee would have lost his job of the week with another employer, this is still not the case for many. And if
Vilma Rios wrote:Managers must have good communication skills. If they do not know how to do so, the employee are not going to know what is expected of them. In my own experience I have had great managers in my past jobs that really made it feel like we were a team. We were all held responsible for doing our task, and these were always made clear to us. It was no guessing game when it came to what we were expected to do on a daily basis. If you have a manager that cant or wont communicate it makes for an unproductive work place.Vanessa Calzada wrote:I really liked that my manager gets to know me and my interests so she can connect with me better. It makes me feel that she cares and that matters a lot in the work place. But its not just with me she does this with every single one of her crew members. I would say yes definitely it has a lot to do with the way she communicates. She knows to have a good working team she has to connect and the way she connects is through people’s interest and to let them know she doesnt just care about how we work.